Can José Chávez Be An Ace?

[Lane]

An interesting stat that OOTP doesn't track, K%/BB% (strikeouts per at-bat/walks per at-bat) it has quite a bit less noise than straight K/BB

Maybe it's the new math thing, but to the best of my understanding:

(K/AB)/(BB/AB) = K/BB

Please educate!

Better way to look at it is K% and BB% on their own or K% minus BB%. Never seen K%/BB%


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[udlb58]

An interesting stat that OOTP doesn't track, K%/BB% (strikeouts per at-bat/walks per at-bat) it has quite a bit less noise than straight K/BB

Maybe it's the new math thing, but to the best of my understanding:

(K/AB)/(BB/AB) = K/BB

Please educate!

Better way to look at it is K% and BB% on their own or K% minus BB%. Never seen K%/BB%


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Sorry, it is K%-BB% (the way I did the math was K-BB/PA so for some reason I was thinking K%/BB%). Don't know why I typed at-bat, must have been drunk.

[Lane]

Maybe it's the new math thing, but to the best of my understanding:

(K/AB)/(BB/AB) = K/BB

Please educate!

Better way to look at it is K% and BB% on their own or K% minus BB%. Never seen K%/BB%


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Sorry, it is K%-BB% (the way I did the math was K-BB/PA so for some reason I was thinking K%/BB%). Don't know why I typed at-bat, must have been drunk.

Figured it was just a mistake.


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[Lane]

There's probably a middle ground. I like the idea of an "ace" generally being in the top half of #1 pitchers in the league ...

That is my definition, too. If 'ace' stopped at Kershaw in the MLB it'd be a hollow identifier - so it shouldn't stop at Diaz and chandler in the mbba, either.

Yeah definitely there's a middle ground. But they've got to have stamina in addition to the great stuff. He's someone that not only you can count on for a great outing but a long one as well. The guy who you can count on to stop a losing streak.


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[agrudez]

But they've got to have stamina in addition to the great stuff.

I might just be being obtuse now, but is Jorge Stanza not an ace? Having '6' stam and '6' STU doesn't fit this definition, but his career 3.43 FIP sure fits mine.

[Lane]

But they've got to have stamina in addition to the great stuff.

I might just be being obtuse now, but is Jorge Stanza not an ace? Having '6' stam and '6' STU doesn't fit this definition, but his career 3.43 FIP sure fits mine.

Maybe I'm just asking too much, but I'd like to see a guy average over 7 innings per start to call him an Ace. Great pitcher? Yes. Ace? Maybe not.


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[agrudez]

Maybe I'm just asking too much, but I'd like to see a guy average over 7 innings per start to call him an Ace. Great pitcher? Yes. Ace? Maybe not.

Yeah, you're *definitely* asking too much in that case, because that definition disqualifies both Diaz (6.855 innings/start over the past 4 seasons) AND Chandler (6.155 innings/start over the past 4 seasons) - the two best SP in the league.

On a side note, you might want to talk to Ted about his pitch counts, Adam. Not sure why a guy with 1 less stam is averaging almost an entire extra inning per start.

[Lane]

Maybe I'm just asking too much, but I'd like to see a guy average over 7 innings per start to call him an Ace. Great pitcher? Yes. Ace? Maybe not.

Yeah, you're *definitely* asking too much in that case, because that definition disqualifies both Diaz (6.855 innings/start over the past 4 seasons) AND Chandler (6.155 innings/start over the past 4 seasons) - the two best SP in the league.

On a side note, you might want to talk to Ted about his pitch counts, Adam. Not sure why a guy with 1 less stam is averaging almost an entire extra inning per start.

Okay yeah I think I may need to reevaluate my stance on this.



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[RonCo]

Maybe rather than think that an "ace" has to be in contention for the Nebraska every year, say that an "ace" has to be in contention as a reasonably possible All Star selection each year.

I mean, there's really only 3-6 Nebraska candidates on the whole, but there are 10-15 guys who are expected to step up and put up All Star kinds of performances.