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Impact of OOTP 25 on Sluggers

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:36 am
by Bob Breum
We know that home run power was removed from the Contact calculation for OOTP 25. This resulted in your average slugger having a reduced contact rating. The question I seek to answer here is this: How did the overall potential rating change for players in OOTP 25, relative to their OOTP 24 slugging potential rating?

First, here's the distribution of power potential ratings for position players in the OOTP 24 universe:

PowerQuantity
1221
2568
3524
4525
5573
6722
7431
8205
996
1048
114
Given a player's potential power rating in OOTP 24, how did his overall potential change in the migration to OOTP 25?

power effect.png

It appears that players rated between 1 and 6 saw little change that can be contributed to their power rating. The average drop in potential per player in this range was 2.7 points, likely a result of the normalization of the player universe and not the direct result of their OOTP 24 power potential.

Beginning with an OOTP 24 power potential of 7, you can see the increasing negative change to the players' overall potential. With only four sluggers rated 11, the sample size is too small to be significant.

Re: Impact of OOTP 25 on Sluggers

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:57 am
by trmmilwwi
Burning the midnight oil pouring over reduced power numbers. Love this information. v25 must have more stringent drug testing. ;)

Re: Impact of OOTP 25 on Sluggers

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:09 am
by aaronweiner
I'm not sure I understand this graph.

Re: Impact of OOTP 25 on Sluggers

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:50 am
by RonCo
Yeah...what is the scale of potential loss? Points on the 20-80 scale?

Re: Impact of OOTP 25 on Sluggers

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:33 pm
by RT60
this is awesome of course, but I admit I initially thought the post was just about my team. haha.

Re: Impact of OOTP 25 on Sluggers

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:44 pm
by JRamirez
I am not sure I'm reading it correctly.

Re: Impact of OOTP 25 on Sluggers

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:51 pm
by RonCo
I think it's saying that (for example) the 4 players that had 11 Power in OOTP 24 (and were probably all 80s) averaged dropping 2.5 points of Potential. For example:

Player 1: 80 > 80
Player 2: 80 > 80
Player 3: 80 > 75
Player 4: 80 > 75

Would average a 2.5 Potential drop.

Re: Impact of OOTP 25 on Sluggers

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:14 pm
by ae37jr
Rumor has it that HGH retired as soon as he heard about the ratings switch. Refused to play if his power was rated below 13.

Re: Impact of OOTP 25 on Sluggers

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:30 pm
by Bob Breum
Sorry for the confusion.

Here's an example. Our number one draft pick from 2057 is Raul Gallehos. In OOTP 24, he has a Potential of 75 on the 20-80 scale. He has a rating of 10 for potential home run power.

ootp24 raul.jpg

Now, in OOTP 25, he has a Potential of 60 on the 20-80 scale. He dropped 15 points, or one point more than the average drop for sluggers with 10 potential home run power.

ootp25 raul.jpg

Re: Impact of OOTP 25 on Sluggers

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:55 pm
by aaronweiner
From what I can tell, we may have to start our statistics over again from 2059 - or at least somewhere notice the schism between them.

We might get a lot of newly minted .250-30 homer guys who used to be superstars.

Re: Impact of OOTP 25 on Sluggers

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 4:11 pm
by BaseClogger
I don’t think statistical production will change much just the scouting.

Re: Impact of OOTP 25 on Sluggers

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:06 pm
by RonCo
Right. The core ratings themselves should not really change heavily, at least that's the goal.

That said, they are being shifted from the 200 point scale to the 500 point scale, to the fidelity of the match could shift things on the output side a little.